Showing posts with label bad growth. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bad growth. Show all posts

Warren Buffett's approach to Growth. Growth on its own is not a valuable thing as a rule.

Benjamin Graham's approach.

Look first at Assets.
Then look at Earnings Power - making sure that they are protected by the assets.


Warren Buffett's approach.


Look at Assets and Earnings Power.
Only then, look to pay something for Growth.
Growth is only valuable if the return on investment in growth is greater than the cost of capital.
If not, growth can destroy value.
Growth on its own is not a valuable thing as a rule.
If you are going to buy growth, you better be sure of the franchise value.

A rapidly growing company presents special problems in valuation.

A rapidly growing company presents special problems in valuation. John Burr Williams (1938:560) succinctly writes "They had high hopes for their business, but no logical evaluation of these hopes in terms of stock prices. The very fact that [the company] was one of the hardest of all stocks to appraise rationally was the reason why it sold at the most extravagant prices, for speculation ever feeds on mystery, as we have seen before."

The problem with estimating an approximate appraisal value for rapidly growing companies is presented most clearly in the St. Petersburg Paradox. As David Durand wrote: "With growth stocks, the uncritical use of conventional discount formulas is particularly likely to be hazardous; for, as we have seen, growth stocks represent the ultimate in investments of long duration. Likewise, they seem to represent the ultimate in difficulty of evaluation." 

Is faith in speculation about future earnings more, or less, reasonable than faith in appraisal of today's value?

Reliance on the earnings estimates of experts can range from blind faith at one end of the spectrum to reasoned faith at the other end.. 


Even if an investor knows the difference between either cash flow or "free" cash flow, however defined, and true long-term economic earnings, and even if an investor accepts the operating definition of earnings used by experts, the acceptance of their estimates of earnings and growth in earnings constitutes an act of faith. 


Is faith in speculation about future earnings more, or less, reasonable than faith in appraisal of today's value?


Forward-looking statements about capital spending plans, R&D projects, share (re)purchase programs, and other uncommitted contingent activities find their public forum in press releases that are carefully worded to avoid class action lawsuits by disgruntled shareholders.

The important point is that growth per se does not always create value for the common stock owners. As John Burr Williams wrote (1938: 419): "That a non-growing industry can be profitable is shown ... , and that a fast-growing industry can be unprofitable is shown ... "

Earnings Growth: Good Growth and Bad Growth


GROWTH FIGURES FOR ANHEUSER-BUSCH

Take Anheuser-Busch. Ten-year figures to 2002, using the Value Line summaries, show the following:
YearEarnings per shareReturn on equity %Return on capital %
1993.8923.014.9
1994.9723.415.2
1995.9522.214.3
19961.1127.917
19971.1829.215.6
19981.2729.316.5
19991.4735.817.7
20001.6937.618.2
20011.8942.018.8
20022.2063.421.9

GROWTH IN EPS

For Mary Buffett and David Clark, earnings per share growth, and its ability to keep well ahead of inflation, is a key factor in the investment strategies of Warren Buffett. Earnings that are consistently increased are an indication of a quality company, soundly managed, with little or no reliance on commodity type products. This leads to predictability of future earnings and cash flows.

On the other hand, with a company whose earnings fluctuate, future cash flows are less predictable. The reasons may be poor management, poor quality or an over reliance on products that are susceptible to price reductions.

Take an imaginary company with the following earnings per share:
YearEPS
12.00
22.25
32.98
41.47
51.88
6-.65
72.75
82.20
91.98
103.01

The only conclusion that follows from these figures is that this company has good years and bad years. Year 11 might be great, it might be dreadful, or it might be average. The only certainty here is the unpredictability.

Of course, a fall in margins for one or two years may be as a result of once only factors and this can provide buying opportunities.

The difficulty is making the judgment as to 
  • whether there is something permanently wrong, or 
  • whether the problem has been isolated and resolved.


WARREN BUFFETT AGAIN ON GROWTH

For Warren Buffett the important thing is not that a company grows (he points to the growth in airline business that has not resulted in any real benefits to stockholders) but that returns grow. In 1992, he said this:

‘Growth benefits investors only when the business in point can invest at incremental returns that are enticing – in other words, only when each dollar used to finance the growth creates over a dollar of long term market value.
In the case of a low-return business requiring incremental funds, growth hurts the investor.’


http://www.buffettsecrets.com/company-growth.htm

WHAT WARREN BUFFETT LOOKS FOR IN COMPANY GROWTH


An investor likes to see a company grow because, if profits grow, so do returns to the investor. The important thing for the investor, however, is that the company increases the returns to shareholders. A company that grows, at the expense of shareholder returns, is not generally a good investment. As Warren Buffett said in 1977:

‘Since businesses customarily add from year to year to their equity base, we find nothing particularly noteworthy in a management performance combining, say, a 10% increase in equity capital and a 5 % increase in earnings per share.’


WARREN BUFFETT AGAIN ON GROWTH

For Warren Buffett the important thing is not that a company grows (he points to the growth in airline business that has not resulted in any real benefits to stockholders) but that returns grow. In 1992, he said this:

‘Growth benefits investors only when the business in point can invest at incremental returns that are enticing – in other words, only when each dollar used to finance the growth creates over a dollar of long term market value.
In the case of a low-return business requiring incremental funds, growth hurts the investor.’

What Warren Buffett Looks for in Company Growth


WHAT WARREN BUFFETT LOOKS FOR IN COMPANY GROWTH

An investor likes to see a company grow because, if profits grow, so do returns to the investor. The important thing for the investor, however, is that the company increases the returns to shareholders. A company that grows, at the expense of shareholder returns, is not generally a good investment. As Warren Buffett said in 1977:

‘Since businesses customarily add from year to year to their equity base, we find nothing particularly noteworthy in a management performance combining, say, a 10% increase in equity capital and a 5 % increase in earnings per share.’

COMPOUNDING EFFECT OF GROWTH

Regular growth in earnings per share can have a compound effect if all, or substantially all, of the profits are retained. A company, for example, with earnings per share of 40 cents growing regularly 9 % would, in ten years produce earnings per share of 87 cents.

Of course, if the investor can do better with retained earnings than the company can, his or her interests are better served by a full distribution of profits.

PAST GROWTH AS A PREDICTABILITY FACTOR

Although a consistent record of increases in earnings per share is not of itself an absolute predictor of either further increases, or the rate of any increases,Benjamin Graham believed that it was a factor worthy of consideration.

In addition, it is logical to conclude that a company that has had regular and consistent increases in earnings per share over a protracted period is soundly managed.

WARREN BUFFETT AGAIN ON GROWTH

For Warren Buffett the important thing is not that a company grows (he points to the growth in airline business that has not resulted in any real benefits to stockholders) but that returns grow. In 1992, he said this:

‘Growth benefits investors only when the business in point can invest at incremental returns that are enticing – in other words, only when each dollar used to finance the growth creates over a dollar of long term market value.
In the case of a low-return business requiring incremental funds, growth hurts the investor.’

GROWTH FIGURES FOR ANHEUSER-BUSCH

Take Anheuser-Busch. Ten-year figures to 2002, using the Value Line summaries, show the following:
YearEarnings per shareReturn on equity %Return on capital %
1993.8923.014.9
1994.9723.415.2
1995.9522.214.3
19961.1127.917
19971.1829.215.6
19981.2729.316.5
19991.4735.817.7
20001.6937.618.2
20011.8942.018.8
20022.2063.421.9

GROWTH IN EPS

For Mary Buffett and David Clark, earnings per share growth, and its ability to keep well ahead of inflation, is a key factor in the investment strategies of Warren Buffett. Earnings that are consistently increased are an indication of a quality company, soundly managed, with little or no reliance on commodity type products. This leads to predictability of future earnings and cash flows.

On the other hand, with a company whose earnings fluctuate, future cash flows are less predictable. The reasons may be poor management, poor quality or an over reliance on products that are susceptible to price reductions.
Take an imaginary company with the following earnings per share:

YearEPS
12.00
22.25
32.98
41.47
51.88
6-.65
72.75
82.20
91.98
103.01

The only conclusion that follows from these figures is that this company has good years and bad years. Year 11 might be great, it might be dreadful, or it might be average. The only certainty here is the unpredictability.

Of course, a fall in margins for one or two years may be as a result of once only factors and this can provide buying opportunities.

The difficulty is making the judgment as to whether there is something permanently wrong, or whether the problem has been isolated and resolved.

Have an opinion on future growth - How can the company increase its earnings?

It is only rational to have an opinion on future growth.  Otherwise, how could you ever choose a stock?

When forming that opinion, back up quantitative information with qualitative factors.

For example, ask what management is doing to make a positive impact on earnings.

According to Peter Lynch, there are 5 basic ways a company can increase earnings:


  • reduce costs; 
  • raise prices; 
  • expand into new markets;
  • sell more of its products to the old markets; or
  • revitalize, close or otherwise dispose of a losing operation.


When management is enacting growth-promoting activities, earnings may be temporarily flat.  They often soon take a giant step up.

Benjamin Graham saw a vulnerability in a high growth rate and in high returns on capital - the two normally go together.

So what's there to worry about in good earnings?  Exceptionally high earnings often attract rough competitors.  

The good part is that high earnings lure enthusiastic new investors, who often bid the share into the stratosphere.


Comment:
Buy good quality growth companies.
Assess the quality of the business and the management.
Then do the valuation.
These are the basics of the QVM or QMV approach to investing.